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    Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    Surprise Good Team-Detroit
    Surprise Bad Team- Chicago Cubs


    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    no doubt the surprise team is detroit. also, after a miserable year from both arizona and colorado, they are both doing really well. i'm somehow surprised that the yankees have lost more than 5 games this year. with a payroll over 200 million, they shouldn't lose but once a month.
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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    Could put Atlanta as the bad team too. Right now Cleveland might be there as well.
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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    If the Yankees would spend some of that 200 million on some good young pitching or grow some talent in their farm system they might lose less often. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    Actually if you follow the Yankees you would realize that the losses of Sheffield, Chacon, and matsui have been HUGE. Pitching wins titles, but an explosive offense does not hurt either. Posada hasnt been healthy all year either, I challange most teams to lose a starting pitcher, a 2 starting outfielders, have their catcher not a full strength and not to mention both Jeter and Damon have suffered injuries. And spending 200 million on young pitching would be a waste, the players and the ball club is built to win now, not in 3-5 years. The spent money on pitching it just seems to be theose pitchers are in the winter of their carrers or have had to battle injury.

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    I don't think you spend 200 mil on all young pitching, but on Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano? I agree that the loss of Sheffield and Matsui has had to have hurt, but it seems that a lot of the recent losses have come by blowing big leads.

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    The winning streaks of the Marlins and Twins, the success of Angels' P Jered Weaver before he got sent back down to the Minors.
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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    When they got Pavano he was a solid ML starter, Wright had begun to show flashes of his brilliance as when we was with the Indians, I feel what your sayin, instead of Johnson (which looked great on paper) more money should have been thrown at younger talent thats had some ML sucess.

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    Pavano has one good year (there was a lot of question on his ability in a big market, one reason Boston backed off).

    Wright had looked good, but he had always been an injury prone.

    Johnson, well that was a shot.

    I don't fault the Yankees for that. Pitching is where its at, and you have to sometimes take a chance on a guy who shows ability and hope.

    I mean Sox did it with Matt Clement (who was looking decent till the line drive in the head last year, not got back). Wells had been able to give innings and quality innings (now he can't stay on the field). Shoot picked a guy up of waivers from Kansas City and another starter from Cleveland in the last week. Injuries can kill a team even with a high payroll
    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Surprise good or bad (MLB)

    Well atleast you didnt spend 3 million dollars on a closer 1st basemen with JT Snow.

    And by closer 1st basemen I mean a guy who might get 3 starts a month but is bascially used as a defensive substitute a la Doug Miencavitz in 04.
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